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Land Use Board Agenda Public Comment
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Land Use Board Planning Board
Name David Hrebenach
Email Address davehrebenach@gmail.com
Business Name Field not completed.
Address 18 Outlook Ave
City Saratoga Springs
State NY
Zip Code 12866
Phone Number 518-681-0492
Project Name Washington St. and West Ave. Land Disturbance Activity
Permit and Watercourse/Wetland Permit
Project Number 20230378
Project Address 239 Washington St Saratoga Springs, NY
Comments Please refer to the attachment for my 2-page public comment
Attach Photo (optional)Formal Statement to the SS Planning Board re Mohr
Property.pdf
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Public Comment - Washington Ave. Land Disturbance Plans
Submitted by Dave and Patty Hrebenach of 18 Outlook Ave. We’re 26-year residents of Saratoga Springs
and 3-year residents of Outlook Ave. A signiflcant factor in choosing the Outlook Ave area was the added
environmental beneflt of a protected forested wetland across from us. We fully planned and expected
the land to be forever wild.
Below are the technical points I have regarding the regulations and requirements associated with the
parcel in question.
• NYSDEC Letter (March 13, 2024). NYSDEC states whereas the parcel in question doesn’t at this
time fall under the jurisdiction of DEC, the State warns:
“… Be advised that changes to Article 24 regulations are expected in January of 2025.
Information regarding wetland mapping and jurisdictional determinations may be subject
to change when new regulations go into effect.”
Given NYS’s warning that the regulations will change in 3 months, any decision regarding
environmental or wetland parcel usage should be delayed until those critical changes are known.
The January revision will establish a category of “Small wetlands of unusual importance “ deflned
by 11 criteria, several of which appear to be applicable.
Further, the letter states that one basis on which NYSDEC came to their decision was that the
wetland was not “required” to be mapped, however the coming revision will change this from a
requirement to a guideline. [NYS Freshwater Wetland Act Article 24 revision January 2025]
• Any attempt to divorce a permit to clear land/wetland from a permit to development land is
incongruous. The service and value of the wetland forest can’t be determined unless compared
against the alternative use.
• Although the 7-acre parcel is designated as T-5 commercial/residential, it has historically been
protected as an area containing NYSDEC & USACE forested wetland. The wetlands were
protected for their environmental beneflt which has not changed as a result of this administrative
technicality. I would maintain that the city still has the authority to directly apply the same original
wetland protection criteria for “preserving the environmental, social and economic value of the
parcel”.
• Development of the parcel will absolutely have a signiflcant negative impact on surrounding home
values along Outlook and Central Ave’s. For people who originally purchased property adjacent to
wetlands that were protected, is there any recourse for those who would quite possibly be loosing
$10,000 to $20,000 in property value?
• In line with a range of City plans and directives ensuring the maintenance of a ‘city in the country’
(e.g. the comprehensive plan, open space plan, green city plan, greenbelt initiative, etc). this
parcel serves as a buffer between residential and commercial lands and the destruction of which
by the placement of 7 acres of additional commercial property will result in the destruction of this
buffer zone going against these city policies and plans along with causing a devaluation of
residential properties for the entire south end of both Outlook and Central Ave’s.
Questions/Challenges for the permitee:
• Please clarify why this isn’t a SEQR Type II action requiring a full EIS? This parcel which was
historically all wetland and then subject to decades of unmonitored C&D and garbage dumping
(ref. Mohr sponsored Archaeological Investigation), and currently adjacent to a car garage,
carwash and gas station isn’t being fully characterized for the presence of hazardous wastes.
• Please clarify how actions are in line with the Saratoga Springs Conservation Area Protection & No
Cut Buffer Policy adoption.
• Has a Wetland Disturbance Permit under Section 13.6 of the wetland standard been issued?
• Regarding the parcel owners proposed grading and drainage plan:
o It states that the 1, 10, and 100-year runoff fiow will be equal to existing conditions. How
can that possibly take into account the existing inflltration of forested wetlands compared
to a proposed commercial development? If its intended to characterize expected runoff of
the empty graded earth parcel, that would be mischaracterizing the planned intent of
selling and developing the land.
o In connection to the above the plans proposed stormwater detention volume decrease
from 6.06 acres to 1.35 acres. Where is this storm surge going? The property outfall swale
is already backing up in the city storm drains and fiooding adjacent residents’ basements
during high fiows.
o Does the owners grading plan account for (and pay for) any city storm drain over capacity
along with flnancial assurance for any/all resultant fiooding of adjacent residents?
• A last note about the increasing needs for more realistic land use planning, I understand that the
USACE and NYS are now reviewing and revising the 100-year fioodplain maps due to the
increasing number of record-breaking high precipitation rain events. Also, numerous Federal
agencies are being tasked to develop or adjust sustainability plans to account for this trend. Many
northeastern areas are re -estimating 100-year fioodplains to as much as an equivalent to 1000-
year plains. Should our planning board begin taking into consideration these re calculations? I
understand the insurance companies are doing so.
6 NYCRR Part 664, Freshwater Wetlands Jurisdiction and Classification
https://dec.ny.gov/nature/waterbodies/wetlands/freshwater-wetlands-program