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From :Susan Barden <susan.barden@saratoga-springs.org>
Subject :Fwd: 118 Woodlawn Ave
To :Julia Destino <julia.destino@saratoga-springs.org>
Zimbra julia.destino@saratoga-springs.org
Fwd: 118 Woodlawn Ave
Tue, Jun 20, 2023 11:51 AM
Please add to Woodlawn Ave. SUP. Thanks!!
Susan B. Barden, AICP
Principal Planner
City of Saratoga Springs
474 Broadway
Saratoga Springs, NY
518-587-3550 ext. 2493
From: "John Henry" <jh12866@icloud.com>
To: "Susan Barden" <susan.barden@saratoga-springs.org>
Cc: "Julie" <slovicjulie@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2023 3:57:02 PM
Subject: 118 Woodlawn Ave
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Susan: We reside at 157 Woodlawn Ave and want to submit this comment to the Planning
Board in opposition to the application for a special use permit and site plan being considered
for 118 Woodlawn Ave (the church building) and the parking area across the street.
We do not believe that either the special use permit or the site plan approval should be
granted. First, it does not appear that the proposed use complies with the City's UDO. The
owner is a for profit LLC named EC Woodlawn Van Dam Property, LLC, not a not-for-profit
club or organization and no club or organization has been identified as the user. As such, the
proposed use does not satisfy the UDO's definition of a private club since there is no such
club and only a for profit LLC identified as the applicant. The UDO's definition--"A facility
operated by an organization or association for a common purpose, such as, but not limited
to, a meeting hall for a fraternal or social organization or a union hall, but not including clubs
organized primarily for-profit or to render a service which is customarily carried on as
a business. 2. Standards a. No more than 30% of the gross floor area may be used as office
space for the private/social club. b. Private/social clubs are permitted to serve meals and
alcohol on the premises for members and their guests only. c. Sleeping facilities are
prohibited. d. Private/social clubs leased or used as reception facilities must comply with the
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requirements for reception facilities, and must receive any approvals required of a reception
facility."--has not been met. Likewise, the description of the facility is essentially that of a bar
and restaurant; i.e., one to "render a service which is customarily carried on as a business"
and does not fall within the UDO.
The matter should be referred to the code enforcement officer/building inspector for a
determination as to the allowability of the proposed use under the UDO prior to any action by
the Planning Board. Since the applicant does not meet the threshold requirement of the
UDO, the application should not be considered.
Moreover, the proposed use as a club serving alcohol and meals clearly does not fit within the
neighborhood. The neighborhood is plainly residential and should remain that way. The only
nearby commercial uses, a barbershop and a dress shop, are consistent with the area--but a
use that will have many people drinking and parking on that corner plainly does not fit. The
applicant claims that the area is part of the "downtown core" but that is clearly not the case
as any such entertainment and alcohol serving uses cease several blocks away and the area
has all transitioned to residential at that point. As such, the grant of a special use permit
does not fall within the goals of the City's comprehensive plan. The building could easily be
repurposed to residential use, consistent with the neighborhood, as several other former
churches in town have been repurposed.
In the event that a special use permit is granted any such permit needs to be conditioned,
including imposing hours of operation limitations on an alcohol-serving establishment that is
located in a residential area. We are very concerned with patrons emptying out into the
street and parking lot at late hours. The use should be capped at 9:00 p.m. or earlier. The
number of parking spaces should also be capped in order to prevent overcrowding of the lot
and the church building.
In short, the applicant is proposing to build an eating and drinking "club" in a residential
neighborhood and should not be allowed to do so. The city would clearly not allow a bar to
be built there and the fact that the patrons may be members of a "club" doesn't provide any
comfort to the neighbors.
Thanks
John Henry & Karen Sosler
157 Woodlawn Ave
Saratoga Springs, NY
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