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Online Form Submittal: Land Use Board Agenda Public Comment
Tue, May 09, 2023 11:40 AM
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Land Use Board Agenda Public Comment
SUBMIT COMMENTS REGARDING CITY PROJECTS
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Land Use Board Planning Board
Name Laura Rappaport
Email Address LYRappaport@gmail.com
Business Name US Sailing
Address 22 EXCELSIOR SPRING AVE
City SARATOGA SPRINGS
State NY
Zip Code 12866
Phone Number 5182481391
Project Name 182 Excelsior
Project Number 20221018
Project Address 182 Excelsior Ave
5/9/23, 12:08 PM Zimbra
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Comments We neighbors are very concerned about the proposed
increased development on the site. Traffic, density,
environmental issues, etc. Details are outlined in attached file.
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Proposed project: 182 Excelsior Avenue.
Neighbors hope to be part of the conversation and inform you and the developer about our
concerns and perhaps even help figure out positive outcomes.
We were impressed at the recent joint meeting of the PB and DRB how members of both boards
worked together and are collaborating to make this a good project.
With that in mind here are some of our concerns:
The project is too large and traffic issues need to be addressed. In particular, the driveway
needs to move to Excelsior Ave. and off Excelsior Spring. The address is, after all, 182 Excelsior
Ave., and there are already 2 existing driveways on Excelsior Ave. This might mean the proposed
placement of the historic buildings needs to be reconsidered.
Bigger is not always better, and in this case, parcel situated adjacent to wetlands and a public
natural resource -- Spring Run Trail -- is not adequate for such a concentrated number of
dwellings. While the parcel might be zoned UR 4, this section of the city is one of the last
remaining wild parcels in the city.
1. Traffic: with the additional proposed 68 spaces and vehicles traveling daily on Excelsior
and Excelsior Spring Aves., it is necessary to improve the whole corridor and
infrastructure to protect people and animals, especially pedestrians/bikers taking the
already underdeveloped road to and from Spring Run Trail. Ingress/egress should be
only from Excelsior Ave., not Excelsior Spring. The current drawings show 2 curb cuts on
Excelsior Spring Ave, whereas the city in general tries to avoid new curb cuts, and these
2 specifically would greatly impede pedestrians and cyclists using the dedicated bike
lane on Excelsior Spring Ave.
2. Environmental Pressures: New development will likely exacerbate existing problems,
such as storm water and invasive species, as a result of increasing permeable surfaces
and uses, and decreasing the natural buffer/habitat along Spring Run Trail .
3. Too large: We’d rather see the proposal decrease the number of units by half, increase
the natural landscape and buffer surrounding the building footprint, utilize existing
access points from Excelsior (no new vehicle ingress/egress from Excelsior Spring - only
pedestrian or bike).
4. Affordability: Will any of the units be considered workforce level housing so people of
average income can afford to live there? (We all know about the affordability issues in
the city.)
5. Green Building: This project should include 21st century green/clean building trends:
green roofs, solar power, green space, permeable surfaces, storm water collection,
native plant species in gardens, no pesticide application, etc.
6. Infrastructure: We request a commitment by the City of Saratoga Springs to improve
infrastructure (including separated sidewalks or paths) along the entirety of Excelsior
Spring Ave to slow all traffic, improve pedestrian and bicycle safety, and discourage and
reduce cut-through traffic to compensate for the increased traffic as a result of the new
units. The city has just built a new bike path and new sidewalks are going in along East
Ave. Excelsior Spring Ave. provides access to Spring Run Trail and those other routes,
but it is treacherous for pedestrians and cyclists. The city sidewalk from Excelsior Ave to
the Spring Run trail is never plowed and the trail snow is piled up at the entrance
blocking the entrance from the road. The city must address this.
7. Historic Buildings? We do wonder about the historic significance of the yellow house
and its carriage house. Before any designation is made, we’d like the history of the
buildings to be made public. Wouldn’t it be more cost-effective to rehab the buildings
where they are and build the new units around them? This is just a question, something
to consider as the plans are being made. Maybe an historical marker is all that ’s needed
here and not the huge expense and effort of moving and saving the building .
8. Take a Holistic Approach: In summary: This project does have some merit, but it needs
to be looked at holistically.
Two large properties on Excelsior Spring are also prime for redevelopment. Number 21 or so --
the “Old Water Bottling Plant.” As well as # 26 – the 4.5 acre parcel with small white house.
Both contain valuable woodland/wetlands on the opposite side of Spring Run creek from the
property in question. We recommend a full study of this corridor to avoid the silo/piecemeal
approach, so it is considered as part of the whole natural resource area that it is. This land is
replete with natural springs that were first discovered by Native Americans, and is a wildlife
corridor for birds and animals, and is full of plant life and should be treated with care and
concern.
Thank you for your consideration.