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Libby Coren, M. ELIZABETH CORENO,ESQ. P.C. liby@coGeronaw.com
August 4, 2021
Patrick Cogan, Building Inspector
City of Saratoga Springs Building Department
474 Broadway
Saratoga Springs, New York 12866
Re: 500 Union Avenue — Zoning Interpretation
Proposed redevelopment of Longfellow's
Dear Patrick:
Our office represents 513 Broadway, LLC which currently has an option to purchase 500
Union Avenue in the City of Saratoga Springs ("City"), commonly known as "Longfellow's."
The potential buyer largely seeks to continue the current operational use as a hotel and restaurant
facility while making a set of remodeling changes to the one of the buildings and the 2001 site
plan approval. In order to properly evaluate the permitted use of the site and the land use
approval process applicable from the City Zoning Ordinance, the proposed buyer and the current
owner (copied here) seek an interpretation from you as it relates to the plans for the future use
and redevelopment of the site. Understanding that your interpretation is limited to the
information we share in this request, we are providing you all available uses, schematic design,
anticipated site changes, historical documents and prior approvals so that a determination can be
properly made by your office.
A. Background
As you know, Longfellow's has a long history in the City as a banquet and hotel facility
dating back to its original retail use known as "The Canterbury." In 1982, the City passed one of
its first specialty zoning enactments, the Interlaken Planned Unit Development district ("PUD")
of which the Canterbury was a part. The original zoning contemplated zone AA which permitted
a 360-seat restaurant, 2000 square foot grocery, 10,000 square foot office renovation, 8250
square feet of new office and commercial space, a 50-room inn, and 231 parking spaces. (See
Exhibit A for the 1982 zoning legislation and map).
In 1998, plans for the renovations into Longfellow's began with the application for site
plan review of a new building on the southern portion of the site for hotel rooms. The
application was brought by one of the current owners and operators of Longfellow's, Steve
Sullivan, and the architect, George Olsen. C. Michael Ingersoll of The LA Group presented the
plans to the City Planning Board on April 1, 1998 and indicated that it was the intent to create
the "inn" portion of the site in addition to the existing restaurant facilities. The site proposal
included 300 indoor seats, a maximum of 50 outdoor seats (courtyard), an 18,720 square foot
restaurant, no more retail, and no more office space. The agenda notes from the City's Planning
Director, Geoff Bomemann, indicate that he had some evidence of a 1984 revision to the PUD
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which permitted larger acreages and broader uses for the site (copy of the Agenda Notes from
4/1/98 are attached as Exhibit B). The Agenda Notes also inquired whether the Planning Board
could "trade uses" (page 9) and the ultimate decision by the Board indicates that they did.
Furthermore, Mr. Olson indicated that he received a zoning interpretation letter that the proposal
was zoning compliant with the intent of the PUD and the Planning Board agreed. (copy of the
4/l/98 minutes is attached as Exhibit Q. All parties acknowledged that the site was "pre-existing
non -conforming" even before the 1982 zoning and the PUD did not include area and bulk
restrictions of any kind. However, the proposal did provide for a voluntary buffer of 50 feet on
the south and 30 feet on the west. The Board further provided that the 10 ft front yard setback
and 25 feet from the south property line was sufficient for parking, and that the parking counts of
150 spaces were not to be included for outdoor seating. The site plan was unanimously
approved.
In November of 2001, the Longfellow's project returned to the Planning Board to modify
its 1998 site plan for the development of a Phase II which called for (1) 75 additional, indoor
restaurant seats or a total of 360 seats, (2) 50 rooms, (3) a connecting bridge between the
buildings 14 feet in height to allow vehicle passage under, and (4) slope analysis for construction
along the northwest portion of the parcel (copy of the December 2001 Agenda Notes attached as
Exhibit D). At the December 2001 Planning Board meeting, Mr. Ingersoll stated that the
application was subject to site plan review and to architectural review by the Design Review
Commission (a copy of the December 2001 Planning Board minutes is attached as Exhibit E).
The proposal also contained small business meeting rooms, ballroom, restaurant and the
additional rooms for the inn for a total of 50. Once again, it was noted that the zoning did not
contain any area or bulk restrictions but was limited by the 1998 site plan requirements which
were to be maintained. The Planning Board voted unanimously to the site plan modifications
and revised uses in 2001.
B. Current Proposal
The potential buyer has identified and executed a confidential MOU with a national boutique
hotel and conference center operator ("Operator") for the redevelopment of the Longfellow's
site. In order to analyze the differences between the 2001 approved site plan and the Operator's
plans for the site, certain comparisons were made using the thresholds and limitations from the
existing SEQRA and land use approval records to determine the level of conformance. Below is
a chart of the relevant metrics of the existing site and the proposed program plan:
Comparison Breakdown
Existing Site
Difference
Building Footprint (SF) Conditioned Space Only
28,799
29,351
552
GSF - Conditioned Space Only
62,511
78,840
16,329
No. of Seats
339
337
-2
No. of Hotel Rooms
50
86
36
No. of Full Time Employees
1 40
1 40
1 0
Law Office of A Elizabeth Coreno, Esq. P.G.
63 Putnam Street, Suite 202
Saratoga Springs, New York 12866
(518)421-1366
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Attached is a sketch plan layout of the existing site plan with an overlay of the proposed
site (see Exhibit F). It is notable that while the gross square footage of the hotel space is larger,
the change to the building footprint is only 552 square feet. The relativity of the GSF to the
consistent footprint has been achieved predominantly through the construction of the previously
contemplated connector bridge, a series of architectural spacing redesign elements allowing for
more efficient building utilization and by bringing all elements of the fagade into alignment with
the original northern barn for more coherence. The historical northern barn is intended to remain
completely intact as demonstrated by the ivory color on the attached sketch plan, along with the
current inn. The structural footprint removals indicated in red on the attached plan include (1)
the grease trap and kitchen hood area facing 9P and (2) the central portion of the indoor ballroom
which will be turned into an outdoor courtyard. A large portion of the building footprint of the
new barn (south barn) will remain largely the same with three notable changes: (1) a veranda to
run the length of the southern wall of the entrance; (2) the previously mentioned movement of
the connector building closer to 9P and (3) the connection bridge from the conference center to
the rear hotel rooms (light blue). There are some parking space relocation proposed but it is (1)
in keeping with the site plan restrictions currently in place and (2) maintaining the current
number of guest parking while adding seven stacked employee spaces at the rear of the property.
C. Procedure for Land Use Review
In light of the long history on the site and the approved site plan, the applicant is
requesting an interpretation concerning the uses proposed and the required City land use
approvals which would be required for the redevelopment proposal. The attached sketch plan
(Exhibit F) indicates that the uses are lodging, restaurant, lounge, ballroom, meeting rooms, pool,
and fitness center. All of these uses were contemplated and/or previously approved in a
combination of PUD language, prior zoning interpretations, and permitted under prior Planning
Board approvals. Our request is a determination that, from a zoning perspective, the
redevelopment proposal is consistent with the uses contemplated under the intent of the zoning
and the existing site utilization.
As it relates to the land use approvals and process, the applicant is requesting an
interpretation that a modification of the 2001 site plan is required, along with the appropriate
SEQRA review, to determine the significance (if any) of the proposed changes from both an
environmental and site plan perspective. The applicant is also requesting that it return to the
Design Review Commission for architectural review as is consistent with the 2001 process in the
City.
Thank you for taking the time to review this letter and its attachments for the requested
interpretation and determination. Please let me know if there are any questions I can answer or
additional information I can provide in order to facilitate your review.
Law Office of M. Elizabeth Coreno, Esq. P.C.
63 Putnam Street, Suite 202
Saratoga Springs, New York 12866
(518) 421-1366
Cogan, Patrick
August 4, 2021
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Sincerely,
M. Elizabeth Coreno
MEC/
cc: Steve Sullivan
Larry Novik
Vince DeLeonardis, Esq.
Law Office of M. Elizabeth Coreno, Esq. P.C.
63 Putnam Street, Suite 202
Saratoga Springs, New York 12866
(518)421-1366
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August 4, 2021
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EXHIBIT B
Planning Board Agenda Notes — 04/01 /98
Law Office of M. Elizabeth Coreno, Esq. P.C.
63 Putnam Street, Suite 202
Saratoga Springs, New York 12866
(518) 421-1366
- COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE:
- DPS comments: "Fire Department: Please note previous
concerns. Also this access configuration is bound to be
somewhat compromised by heavy snowfall. It is not unusual
for these vehicle access roads to be reduced by'half
during normal winter plowing. I recommend snow removal.
Police Department: Concern with increased traffic for
drop-off/pick-up of children. - How. many children per day,:,, :..
plus other cars at medical offices? Traffic Maintenance:
Same as Police*Department concerns.."
- DPW comments: "It must be made clear that the city is not
responsible for stormwater'detention basin. My question
is after all the lots are sold who is responsible? Need
to know water usage to establish tapping fee."
- Project Review Status (as of 3/27/98):
- Amount of initial escrow account: $500.00
- Total staff charges to date: $
- Current balance: $
- Application fee of $200 has been paid.
- SEQR determination (negative declaration?)
- Action on site plan amendment?
5.. 9 8.13 INTERLAKEN PUD - ZONE A.A, - LONGFELLOWS RESTAURANT : (50 0
Union Avenue)
- Application for PUD site plan review for 18 lodging units in
Zone AA of the Interlaken Planned Unit Development -District.
- POLICY ISSUES:
- Review of overall plan for the site:
- Original PUD documents indicate the 6.73 acre
Zone AA could be developed into 165 seat restaurant
and lounge of approximately 15,000 square feet, 54
room Inn of approximately 25,000 square feet,
61000 sq ft. of neighborhood retail and 6,000 sq.
ft. for office and retail use, parking for 230
cars.
- Boundaries of the PUD in this area appear to have
been revised without City Council action. Size of
site has grown from 6.73 acres to 9.7 acres.
- Clarify if there are two maps (as shown on
plans) or one (as shown on tax map).
- Applicantls master plan'appears to call for a 50
room Inn (not 54 rooms), an 18,720 sq. ft.
restaurant with 300 seats (not a 15,000 sq. ft.
restaurant with 165 seats), total parking for 150
cars (not 230 spaces), no retail and no offices.
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- When did the number of seats in the
restaurant increase?
Should outside seating be allowed. If so,
how many seats?
There may have been some understanding of
revisions made in 1984 that could have changed
PUD boundary and permitted uses to: "360 seat
restaurant, 2,000 sq. ft. grocery, 10,000 sq.
ft. office rehab at the Canterbury, 8,250:
sq. ft. of new office and commercial space, 50-
room Inn and 231 car parking."
- Are the currently proposed changes
acceptable or does the applicant have to go
back- before- the City Council to amend the
original ('documents"? Does the Planning Board
have. the authority to do some "trading" of
uses? Should more research be done on the
history of presentations to the City Council?
Does Board want to review the layout of the
overall plan now? Does it want the overall plan to
be part of the approval package?
- Is it safe/desirable to build on steep
slopes?
Area and bulk standards:
- Original PUD documents did not have any setback
or height requirements for zone AA. Does the Board
want to establish some?
- Was there a NYS DOT taking of extra right-
of-way in front of this property since 19827
Building currently has front yard setback of
3.6 feet.
- Current parking is about 25 feet from front
property line. Applicant proposes 10 foot
Parking: front yard parking. Is this acceptable?
- Does parking demand include outside seating?
- Is proposed parking layout acceptable? (Setbacks,
etc.)
Is 12 ft. width of proposed turnaround on north
side of building acceptable? It does not allow a
parked car (leading or registering at the Inn) to
be passed.
Should there be any handicapped parking near the
north entrance for the Inn?
- Clarify if existing gravel area in front of
building needs to be kept for emergency. vehicles?
Is it too close to the structure? Has applicant
discussed these issues with the Fire Department?
- Water:
- Existing structure appears to be connected to
Interlaken Water System via an unidentified sized
main. Location of this service is not shown.
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- Is there adequate pressure and- volume in this
existing service to provide fire protection to this
site?
- What is the fire flow requirements of the
structure?
- Should this facility be directly serviced by City
water, which is now across the street?
- Should on -site hydrants be provided? Portions of
the building are more than 400 feet from the
existing city system fire hydrant at corner of::.: s
Union Ave/Dyer Switch Road.
- Drainage:
- Proposed on site drywells are proposed to be tied
lined together. Is this acceptable?
- No all of the propose drywells have point
discharge overflows? Is this acceptable?
- Are proposed discharges in the middle of the bank
slope acceptable?
- Clarify how roof drainage will be handled.
- Does any of the parking lot along the western or
northern side of building need curbing to prevent
runoff down to slope?
- Clarify how driveway entrance is to be adequately
drained?
- Lighting:
- Applicant proposes to keep existing three light
poles in the parking lot and small, light posts
along the entrance driveway. Is the design of these
acceptable?
- Clarify how parking on west and northern side of
structure will be lite?
- Landscaping:
- Is there adequate planting along the Union Avenue
frontage.
Sidewalks:
- Should there be a sidewalk from the restaurant
door to intersection of Union Avenue and Dyer
Switch Road? to Interlaken Zone A residences?
Traffic impacts:
- Should applicant participate in NYS DOT's traffic
mitigation fee program 18 new room? for additional
seating? Recently all other Interlaken projects
(zone C and BB) have participated.
- Phasing plan:
- Clarify action in proposed construction phases:
- Phase 1:
- Rehab 18 rooms for Inn.
- Pave 47 parking spaces.
- Pave drive immediately to the south
west and north of building.
- Revise emergency access on east side of
building.
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- Phase lA:
- Pave parking spaces.
- Pave entrance drive.
- Install outdoor deck and seating.
Clarify why all the parking lot grading and
drainage can't be done in first phase?
- Should entrance drive be in the first phase?
- Clarify why all the plantings can't be done in
the first phase?
- How much time does applicant need to complete
phase 1 and phase IA? (Shouldn't these be labeled
lA and 1B?)
- Is certificated of occupancy for 18 room Inn
tied to phase 1 approvals?
- Cost estimate for letter of credit = $14,884 for phase
1 and $13,259 for phase 2.
- City Engineer's recommends some revisions.
- Expiration date for phase IA?
- Expiration date for phase 1B?
TECHNICAL ISSUES:
Add postal address (1500 Union Avenue).
- Document handicapped access to building.
- Revise tax map parcel data.
- Provide correct source for topographic data.
Revise storkwater management plan as per City
Engineer's comments.
- Provide details on riprapping:for drainage outfall.
- Revise sanitary sewer manhole cover for new grades in
parking lot.
- Show size and location of all existing water mains and
values.
Add erosion control measure for outfall piping.
- Add note that new driveway entrances.require NYS DOT
permit.
- COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE:
- DPS comments: "Concerned with water pressure and supply for
fire protection."
- DPW comments: "It is my belief that this project can not be
serviced by Interlaken Water system. only alternative is that
project be connect to city water."
- County Planning Board referral: "No significant countywide
or intercommunity impact."
- Project Review Status (as of 3/27/98):
- Amount of initial escrow account: $500.00
- Total staff charges to date: $
- Current balance: $
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--Application fee of $300.has been paid.
- SEQR determination (negative declaration?)
- Action on preliminary and final PUD site plan approval?
6. 98..14 ASHGROVE INN: (387 Church Street).
- Application for site plan for parking lot improvements for
a restaurant.
- Variances granted by ZBA on February 25, 1998
- POLICY ISSUES:
- Parking layout plan
- Plan removed existing parking along Church Street
and add parking on west side of structure.
- Should there be a sidewalk system along the
frontage of all -parking spaces?
- Clarify that all parking is -to be paved?
Is applicant interested. in proposing a phasing
plan for the site improvements?
- Driveways:
- Does -site need two driveways?
- The eastern one lines up with Kirby Road.
The western one provide contains access
easement to neighboring property. Clarify
purpose and function.•. of ..that easement.. Does
paved area have to be provided to the property
line for this easement?
- The Fire Department has submitted letter
stating they would like to have two entrances.
- Proposed driveway widths are 65 feet wide. City
standard is 24 feet wide but this is a State road.
Can 65 foot width be justified? Can the minimum
State standard of 30 feet be used? Reduce both
driveways?
- Drainage:
- Applicant proposes no curbing and only two
drywells for this site. Is this.acceptable?
- Will there be • any ,increased discharge off on
neighboring property?
- Grading plan is not in enough detail to show
how drainage will work.
- Drywells are not connected and. there is not- point .
discharge proposed. Is this acceptable?
- Should they be interconnected?
- Should there be a point discharge?
- Should there be a plugged overflow discharge
to State ROW?
- Clarify how roof drainage will be handled?
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EXHIBIT C
Planning Board Meeting Minutes — 04/01/98
Law Office of M. Elizabeth Coreno, Esq. P.C.
63 Putnam Street, Suite 202
Saratoga Springs, New York 12866
(518) 421-1366
ti I
City of Saratoga Springs Planning Board Meeting Minutes
Wednesday x April l r 1998
expensive.
Hal Gerow said the applicant would not have a problem complying
wi-th the technical issues as listed on the Board's agenda notes.
Lorraine Tharp asked for comments from the audience. No one spoke.
Lorraine Tharp noted the following comments from other departments:
- DPS comments: "Fire Department: Please note previous
concerns. Also this access configuration is bound to be
somewhat compromised by heavy snowfall. It is not unusual for
these vehicle access roads to be reduced by half during normal
winter plowing. I recommend snow removal. 20l_ice Department:
Concern with increased traffic for drop-off/pick-up of
children. How many children per day, plus other cars at
medical offices? Traffic Maintenance: Same as Police
Department concerns."
- DPW comments: "It must be made clear that the city is not
responsible for storm water detention basin. My question is
after all the lots are sold who is responsible? Need to know
water usage to establish tapping fee." Hal Gerow said they
will work with Utilities.
Norman Fox moved and Eleanor Mullaney seconded a motion to issue a
SEAR negative declaration. Ayes all.
Wallace Allerdice moved and Clark Brink seconded a motion to issue
an approval of the site plan contingent on the items agreed to
�r�tg-=t�-re--1djscussion. Ayes all.
This is an application for PUD site plan review for 18 lodging
units in Zone AA of the Interlaken Planned Unit Development
District.
Michael Ingersoll, landscape architect, appeared representing the
applicant. Also, in attendance were Steve Sullivan, applicant, and
George Olsen, architect.
Steve Sullivan said the property was bought to develop into an Inn
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and restaurant. They are looking at late July or early August to
complete the first phase of the Inn.
Michael Ingersoll addressed the following policy issues as listed
in the Board's agenda notes:
1. Review of overall plan for the site: Michael Ingersoll said
the existing building is used as a restaurant with a gravel
driveway and parking lot. The applicant is looking to
construct out buildings with additional Inn rooms later on.
Michael Ingersoll said the applicant is proposing to develop
right now the back half of the existing building with 18
rooms, later there would be out buildings like townhouses.
These would be residential in scale, not commercial looking.
The applicant is only placing on the plans what they will be
doing now. Therefore, the layout of the overall plan will not
be done right now and will not be shown of the official
submitted PUD site plan for the 18 rooms. Lorraine Tharp said
the issue of building future rooms on steep slopes will need
to be addressed when the applicant returns for PUD site plan
review in the future.
Michael Ingersoll referred to site plan showing a new driveway
into the site and reconfiguring the existing driveway. This
driveway would go around the back to the rooms and check in
area. Michael Ingersoll feels that it complies with the
original PUD.
Geoff Bornemann noted that the original PUD documents indicate
the 6.73 acre Zone AA could be developed into a 165 seat
restaurant and lounge of approximately 15,000 square feet, 54
room Inn of approximately 25,000 square feet, 6,000 sq ft.
of neighborhood retail and 6,000 sq. ft. for office and retail
use and parking for 230 cars. There are also some later
documents which indicated there could be a 300 seat
restaurant.
The applicant's master plan appears to call for a 50 room Inn
(not 54 rooms), an 18,720 sq. ft. restaurant with 300 seats
(not a 15,000 sq. ft. restaurant with 165 seats, total
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parking for 150 cars (not 230 spaces), no retail and no
offices. George Olsen spoke on the history of the building
code and seating. Currently there is seating for 300 in the
restaurant. They are only seeking 300 seats in this proposal.
George Olson said that the Building Inspector has given the
applicant a letter saying the restaurant will be in compliance
with zoning and building if some minor improvements were made.
Based upon this letter, the Board concluded that the
applicant's current proposal is in compliance with the PUD
intent.
Geoff Bornemann noted that the boundaries of the PUD in this
area appear to have been revised without City Council action.
The size of site has grown from 6.73 acres to 9.7 acres. Also
it needs to be clarified if there are two tax parcels involved
(as shown on plans) or one (as shown on tax map) . Mike
Ingersoll they would clarify this but he felt the new
boundaries had been approved by the City Council.
2. Outdoor seating: Michael Ingersoll said they plan to have
�- about 30-50 seats in the outside area. He noted that the
zoning code does not allow them to go over 50% of the number
of seats inside seating. Their numbers are less than 50%.
3. Area and bulk standards: Geoff Bornemann noted that the
original PUD documents did not have any setback or height
requirements for zone AA. Michael Ingersoll said they are
proposing a 30 foot setback between zone AA. Clark Brink said
he would like to see more buffering to Interlaken. The
applicant said they could do 50 feet where tree line is on the
south side and 30 feet on the west side. The Board agreed.
The Board said it did not have a problem with the current
parking being about 25 feet from front property line and with
the applicant proposing to have a 10 foot setback front yard
parking.
4. Parking demand and layout: Mike Ingersoll said that the
parking demand does not need to include outside seating and
the Board agreed.
The Board did not have any problem with the proposed parking
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..layout with setbacks. Michael Ingersoll referring to the 12
feet width of proposed turnaround on north side of building
that it is a tight squeeze but they can provide an area to
pull off to allow a car to get around a parked car. Lorraine
Tharp said this was acceptable to the board.
The applicant agreed to place handicapped parking near the
north entrance for the Inn.
5. Front access road: Michael Ingersoll feels they do not need
the existing gravel area in front of building but the Fire
Department might want to use it. Michael Ingersoll said they
would work with the Fire Department and give them whatever
they want. If the Fire Department does not want the area the
applicant will return it to grass. The Board agreed with
this.
6. Water: Geoff Bornemann noted that the existing structure
appears to be connected to Interlaken Water System via an
unidentified sized main. Location of this service is not
shown.
Michael Ingersoll said they have done an analysis of the fire
flow needs of the building. The have asked the engineers from
the Interlaken Water Company to provide them with data on the
availability of pressure in the water system. That
information is not yet available. This will be subject to the
Fire Department review. If there is not enough pressure they
can hook up to the nearby City water. They do not want to do
this if not necessary because the cost would be $35,000. They
would have to bore under Union Avenue to access the city water
but will do this if necessary. There are 2 existing hydrants
in the parking lot. Clark Brink -said he would like another
hydrant over by the Inn, George Olsen said they would place
another hydrant near the Inn. Mike Ingersoll said they would
resolve all these issues with the Fire Department.
7. Drainage: Mike Ingersoll said they will revise the drainage
system so that the on -site drywells are connected together by
piping. The line will discharge to a point at the base of the
slope.
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Michael Ingersoll said the roof drainage will be handled by
sheet flow to the parking lot.
Michael Ingersoll said that he does not think that any of the
parking lot along the western or northern side of building
need curbing to prevent runoff down the slope. He feels this
would be addressed adequately by sloping the parking lots and
he will add additional spot grades to provide additional
grading to direct the flows.
Michael Ingersoll said he was sure the that driveway entrance
would be adequately drained to go over the existing swales.
8. Lighting: Michael Ingersoll said they were trying not to over
light the parking lot. He agreed to add additional lighting
in the drop off area for the Inn and along the entrance drive.
The light fixtures to be used will be the same as those used
in Interlaken zone A. They will add these changes on the
plans.
9. Landscaping: Michael Ingersoll said they feel there is
adequate planting along the Union Avenue frontage. Clark
Brink said that the landscaping along Union Avenue should be
increased. Steve Sullivan said the landscaping would be
phased. Michael Ingersoll proposed 4 - 5 sugar maples for
now. They would start at the top of the slope. The Board
agreed.
10. Sidewalks: Mike Ingersoll said they do not want to install
a sidewalk from the restaurant door to intersection of Union
Avenue and Dyer Switch Road. They would be willing to work
with Interlaken Zone A residences regarding a sidewalk from
their development to the restaurant. The Board agreed.
11. Traffic impacts: Lorraine Tharp said the board would ask the
applicant to participate in NYS DOT's traffic mitigation fee
program on the 18 new rooms only if it wasn't too much money.
This is part of the SEQR review process. Geoff Bornemann said
that DOT calculates the amount which goes into escrow. The
applicant would receive funds back after 5 years if not
needed. Recently all other Interlaken projects (zone C and
BB) have participated. The applicant agreed.
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12. -Phasing plan: Mike Ingersoll said the applicant was dealing
with a pre-existing non -conforming site (the unpaved parking
lot). The were willing to bring it all into compliance, but
would like to do it in phases. He said it would cost $50,000
to do the parking lot. They are on a tight budget now and
wanted to do the phasing. Lorraine Tharp said the board felt
that the driveway needed to be taken care of immediately.
Norman Fox said to do the driveway first and leave the parking
lot until later.- Lorraine Tharp said to do the driveway in
and around the front and the back of the building.
The Board mandated immediately that all handicapped parking
should be paved. The driveway will be paved all the way to
the Inn entrance and trees will be planted along Union Ave.
The board said that Phase I would be tied to the certificate
of occupancy for the 18 room Inn, that'Phase II did not need
to be complete for a certificate of occupancy.
13. Letter of credit: The cost estimate for letter of credit was
originally $14,884 for phase 1 and $ 13,259 for phase 2.
Based upon the changes made the figures will be revised and
submitted to the City Engineer for review and approval. The
Board and the applicant set the expiration date for phase lA
for June 30, 1999.. The expiration date for phase 1B would be
June 30, 2000.
Michael Ingersoll said they would have no problem complying with
all the technical issues as listed in the Board's agenda notes.
Lorraine Tharp asked for comments from the audience:
Bob Howard, with Tomsargo Group, 88 Circular Street, said this
project will help his business (the pending new golf course). He
thinks this project is a great idea. The applicant is a good
person and very community oriented.
Lorraine Tharp noted the comments from the following department:
DPS comments; "Concerned with water pressure and supply for fire
protection." and DPW comments;: "It is my belief that this project
can not be serviced by Interlaken Water system. Only alternative is
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that project be connected to city water."
The County Planning Board referral was "No significant countywide
or intercommunity impact."
William McTygue said this project should be a success because the
area is growing. He thinks the City will eventually buy the
Interlaken water system. He asked what would happen then? Geoff
Bornemann said the plans have in the past included a provision to
connect the private water system with the city system. William
McTygue asked who would own the hydrants. Geoff Bornemann said he
was not sure, but in most cases they are privately owned, but
publicly inspected. The applicant has been warned that the
hydrants could end up being their responsibility.
Eleanor Mullaney moved and William McTygue seconded a motion to
authorize the chair to issue a SEQR negative declaration. Ayes
all.
Wallace_Allerdice moved and Clark Brink seconded the motion to
approve PUD site plan approval contingent upon the items agreed to
during the discussion. Ayes all.
98.14 ASHGR= INN: ( 3 87 Church Street)
This is an application for site plan for parking lot improvements
for a restaurant.
Use and area variances were granted by ZBA on February 25, 1998.
George Yasenchak, engineer, and Dan Jewett, applicant, appeared
before the Board.
George Yasenchak said that the Ash Grove has existed for 50 - 60
years but closed a few years ago. The property lost the non-
conforming use status, but the ZBA recently granted a use variance.
He announced that the applicant is making. the following changes
from the submitted site plan: 1) moving the trash container to the
northwest corner of the property; 2) at the front entrance of the
building the last two parking spaces will be moved to the side of
the building; and, 3) putting the front door back on the building.
George Yasenchak addressed. the following policy issues as listed on
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EXHIBIT D
Planning Board Agenda Notes — December 2001
Law Office of M. Elizabeth Coreno, Esq. P.C.
63 Putnam Street, Suite 202
Saratoga Springs, New York 12866
(518) 421-1366
Saratoga Springs Planning Board -- Agenda Nores for December 12, 2001 MeetYng -- Page 7 of 13
COMMNTS FROM THE AUDIENCE:
DPS comments: No concems."
DPW comments: No comments received.
Office he City En&cer: "Approve LoC reduction to $42,740.7�
Application ibeof $200 has been paid.
Action on request &kreduce the $63,967 to $42,
date from Dec=ber X. 2001..to June 30, 2002�
2. 001.86 MCNEARY PROPS : 230ew Street
.15 and to extend the expiration
Application for a 2 lot subdivision 't . arehouse Districi.
Applicant has requested a con tz til the January 9, 2002 meeting.
Action on request to continu a public he g to the January 9, 2002 meeting.
3. 01.87 SELF-STORAGE'ACILI'I`'i: 23 New
- Application f site plan review for 40,000 square of of new self -storage
warebousin in a Warehouse District.
- ,A.pplic as requested a continuation to the January 9, 2002 meeting.
- Actio bequest to continue to the January 9, 2002 meetirig.
. 4. 0_1.95 LONGFELLOWS — PRASE II`„ 500 Union Avenue
Application for PUD site plan approval for a 75-seat restaurant addition and 32 lodging
`4001ns in Zone AA of the Interlaken Planned Unit Development District.
POLICY ISSUES:
Required approvals:
Applicant needs PUD site plan review from the Planning Board and architectural
review from the DRC. The applicant will be on. the DRC agenda on 12/13/01 for
architectural review of the first phase of this project.)
- Proposed uses: a
- In 1998 the Planning Board make an interpretation that the Interlaken PUD
ordinance documents allows a restaurant with up to 360 seats an in with up to 50 •--
MOMS.
- The proposed addition brings the restaurant to 360 seats and the inn to 50 room s.
rnw►�w. Clarify if any outside seating is proposed. - h,o i �OV-o"a�l
Clarify if there will be any business meeting rooms. vie;
Area, and bulk schedule:
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The original PT -ID documents did not have any setback or height requirements for
zone A.A. Are those acc
SB - Enhances: proposed eptable to the Planning Board?
Clax* where the main building entrances are for the restaurant, banquet :facilities
and inn' Are they different locations? b-Xow will people be directed to the correct
entrance?
Parking:
- Should some handicapped parking Spaces be located closer the entrance of the
lodging addition?
Clarify that height of connecting bridge will provide at least 14 Feet of clearance fox
vehicle passing under it.
Slope stability.
- A geotechnieal report has been prepared. Recotnmmdation of that re ort sho
included on the plans. p uid be
Should the applicant add a construction, limit line for disturbance on the slope and
1equire Planning Board action for MY disturbance below the Vie?
-- - Should there be a ,limit on bow much vegetation the applicant will be allowed to cut
LUC 5 e in-creatP-
Utilities:
? Should hydrant near the entrance to the new addition be moved further awayo
e bUlld�fobetter access
C f t. he Fire Z3epattincnt? __..__..._,.._�_�....r.�..__ �...__...._.�.
Clarlfy that the applicant has the xiht to increase the sanitary
PR� across Zone A of Interlaken. g Y sewer flow in the
- heze an adequate buffer betsueer� the arkin lot
� Is the proposed chain link fenced tom, g and the residences in Zone A?
- �'xaal: ASP enclosure acceptable? .
�` Discuss status of negotiations with adjacent property owner for access '
brail construction. rights for the
Will trail construction require DEC wetland permit? .�..
uerkti - Should there be an easement for the nsexisting trail that crosses this prop ?None is
shown on the pla.
1W,
- Should there be a pedestrian path along the frontage of this property?
Due to the increased volume of pedestrian traffic in the neighborhood; the Board
.o.w • required the East Ridge development to install a "meandering"
asphalt path along Crescent Avenue. 5 foot wide
Phasing plan:
Discuss timing for the two phases. Should there be a "sunset" provision on the site
Plan approval for each of the phases?
Provide a better identtcation of who improvements will be made during what
phase, g
Traffic mitigation fee:
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EXHIBIT E
Planning Board Minutes — December 2001
Law Office of M. Elizabeth Coreno, Esq. P.C.
63 Putnam Street, Suite 202
Saratoga Springs, New York 12866
(518) 421-1366
Nancy Butcher moved, and Robert Bristol seconded the motion to approve the request to
reduce the cash escrow amount from $63, 967 to'* $42, 720.75 and to extend the expiration
date from December 31, 2001 to December 31, 2002. Ayes all.
01.86 MCNEARY PROPERTY: 23 New Street
This is an application for a 2 lot subdivision in a Warehouse District. Geoff Bomemann
reported that the applicant has requested a continuation until the January 9, 2002 meeting.
The Board agreed to continue the public hearing to the January 9, 2002 meeting.
01.87 SELF -STORAGE FACILITY: 23 New Street
This is an application for site plan review for 40,000 square foot of new self -storage
warehousing in a Warehouse District. Geoff Bomemann reported that the applicant has
requested a continuation to the January 9, 2002 meeting. The Board agreed to continue
to the January 9, 2002 meeting.
01.95 LONGFELLOWS — PHASE 11: 500 Union Avenue
This is an application for PUD site plan approval for a 75-seat restaurant addition and 32
lodging rooms in Zone AA of the Interlaken Planned Unit Development District.
Steve. Sullivan, applicant, Mike Ingersoll, landscape architect, and George Olsen,
architect, appeared before the Board.
Required approvals: Mike Ingersoll stated that the applicant needs PUD site plan review
from the Planning Board and architectural review from the DRC. He also stated that the
applicant is on the DRC's December 13, 2001 agenda for architectural review of the first
phase of this project.
Proposed uses: Mike Ingersoll stated that in 1998 the Planning Board made an interpretation
that the Interlaken PUD ordinance documents allows a restaurant with up to 360 seats an inn
with up to 50 rooms. The proposed addition brings the restaurant to 360 seats and the inn to
50 rooms. Mike Ingersoll said that currently, there are 18 rooms in the inn and breakfast
service is available to those rooms.
Outside seating: Mike Ingersoll said that there will be an outdoor deck for social gatherings,
but there will not be any outdoor dining.
Conferences: Mike Ingersoll said that there will not be conferences held at the inn or in the
restaurant. He also said that there always have been small business meeting held in the
restaurant, and some in their separate rooms in the restaurant, but never any large
conferences.
Area and bulk schedule: Mike Ingersoll said that the original PLTD documents did not have
any setback or height requirements for Zone AA. He said that the are planning a 50 foot
setback from Interlaken Zone A, and a 30 foot buffer on the northwest corner of the property
by keeping the natural buffer.
Code issues: George Olsen stated that Steve Sullivan purchased the building and property in
1996, and at that time there were many code violations that had to be corrected. At this time
there are wooden stairs that must be removed. He explained that the proposed addition
would also clean up access issues. Non-combustible construction will be used.
Entrances: George Olsen said that the entrance lobby will have an elevator which will go to
the 2nd and 3rd floors. The current entrance will remain, and the proposed 2nd entrance
will be for functions such as weddings, etc. He said he will add directional signage for each
entrance on the plans. He said that the rear outdoor deck will hold a maximum of 50 people,
and was planned there because of the nice view. George Olsen said that they are continuing
the architectural character of the original buildings.
Parking: Mike Ingersoll stated that some of the handicapped parking spaces should be
located closer the entrance of the lodging addition and he agreed to relocate them.
Bridge height: Mike Ingersoll said that the height of connecting bridge will provide almost
15 feet of clearance for vehicles (including fire tucks) passing under it.
Slope stability: Mike Ingersoll stated that a geotechnical report has been prepared, and he
will include the report recommendations on the plans. He also said that he will establish a
construction limit line for disturbance on the slope.
Mike Ingersoll said that no more than 25% of the trees under 12 feet will be removed. The
only exception will be dead and diseased trees. Mike Ingersoll said that the presence of
trees will help to stabilize the slope and will include a note on the plan with these proposed
restrictions.
Utilities: Mike Ingersoll said that the hydrant near the entrance to the new addition will be
moved further away from the building for better access for the Fire Department.
Mike Ingersoll said that there have been some recent concerns about who maintains the
sanitary sewer lines in Interlaken Zone A. Currently the sanitary sewer flow from
Longfellows goes through the Interlaken Zone A piping. He said the applicant is still in the
process of negotiating a formal agreement with Interlaken Zone A to continue to use their
piping. He also said that an alternative plan would be that they could hook up with the
manhole across the street, although they would prefer not to. The Board agreed that the
final solution for the sanitary sewer Iine connection for both phase I and R. would be
contingent upon the Chair's approval of either of the options proposed.
Dumpster: Mike Ingersoll said they are proposing a chain link fence with green slates
around the dumpster. The Board asked for a more attractive enclosure. Steve Sullivan stated
that he would be willing to construct a cinderblock enclosure that is painted green with
wood covering it. He also said that the garbage is picked up 3 ' days a week at 8:00 a.m. The
Board agreed that they prefer the cinderblock enclosure for the dumpster.
Trail: Mike Ingersoll said that they do have a letter from the golf course regarding the
access rights for the trail construction. He also said that they may be able to avoid the
D.E.C. wetland issue with culverts, and he. will add these items in the notes on the plans.
Mike Ingersoll said that the applicant will also grant an easement for the existing trail that
crosses this property.
Paths/sidewalks: Mike Ingersoll said that a sidewalk would normally go into the DOT right
of way, where there is extensive drainage and they are hoping not to have to obtain a permit.
He said that they would prefer to install a meandering path from the driveway. to the
building entrance along most of the frontage of this property. The Board favored this
alternative location for a sidewalk
Phasing plan: Mike Ingersoll stated that the first phase of the project is for the addition,
which will take 1 year. The second phase of the project is for the inn, which will take 2
years. He said that they expect Phase I will be started during the winter, and Phase II will
start in the fall of 2002.
Lighting: Mike Ingersoll said the lighting throughout the parking lot will be the same on 12
foot high poles.
Traffic mitigation fee: Lorraine Tharp noted that in 1998 the applicant agreed to contribute
$160 per lodging room for the NYS DOT traffic mitigation fee. The fee for the additional 32
rooms would $51,120 (32 X $160/room). The applicant agreed to place money in escrow for
this traffic mitigation fee with the same conditions.
Letter of credit: Mike Ingersoll stated that the amount- of .�.est�29imate: Phase I = $57947.63
(total cost of site work = $23,1790) and Phase II $37,890.00. total cost of site work =
$151, 560). The Board noted that the * City Engineer- s` a�rovai for the final figure will be
required. The Board set the expiration date for Phase I for December 31, 2002 and the
expiration date for Phase II for December 31, 2003.
The applicant agreed to comply with all technical issues as listed on the agenda notes.
Lorraine Tharp asked if anyone from the audience wished to comment on this project.
Brian Finneran, 32 Sicada Drive, stated that on Sunday the residents of Interlaken were
invited to Longfellows for a presentation of their- plan and they were mostly pleased with
everything they heard. He said that this was the first that the homeowners knew of this.
Brian Finneran said that one of his concerns is that there are no assurances about noise,
lighting, and impact. He said that there is more activity with growth. He also said that the
buffer between Interlaken and Longfellows could be increased.
Lorraine Tharp asked if the buffer could be improved. Mike Ingersoll said that the PUD
was originally approved with no setbacks and that they are committed to a minimal amount
of tree removal. He mentioned several years ago another Planning Board applicant (the
Methodist Church on 5a' Avenue) set aside a pool of money for additional plantings, and
suggested that Longfellows may be willing to do the same. Mike Ingersoll pointed out that
the closest houses are 100 feet away and that the applicant has made a good faith effort for a
buffer. Steve Sullivan said that he is happy to work with the neighbors and that he is taking
their concerns into account. Mike Ingersoll pointed out that the existing buffer could
provide 30 additional parking spaces for Longfellows. Robert Bristol said that a money
pool is a good idea and it allows for time to see where additional trees would be beneficial.
Nancy Butcher said that most of the impact would be from Phase H, and all the details can
be worked out while Phase I is being completed. The Board agreed that the final planting
plan for this buffer would contingent upon the Chair's approval.
Brian Finneran also said that the other night he and a few of the residents took a walk and
noticed two lights on a tree in the parking lot that glared towards Interlaken. He said that
there was a time when two trailers were parked in the parking lot and were very visible to
Interlaken. Mike Ingersoll said that the glaring lights will be removed and a note to this
effect will be added to the plans
Brian Finneran thanked the Board and Steve Sullivan for working with the homeowners
during the planning of this project.
Lorraine Tharp noted the following comments from the City departments: DPS comments:
"Emergency response to the proposed area is 8+ minutes and is excessive. I recommend
consideration of an additional fire station east of Rte. 87. I would request fire -flow
calculations and a hydrant located within 500 feet. Also of concerns is accessibility and
maneuverability of apparatus. Police Department: No comments. Traffic Maintenance: No
comments." DPW comments: No comments received.
Saratoga County Planning Board referral: Pending
The traffic mitigation fee of $5.120 must be paid before the signing of the site plan.
Lorraine Tharp noted that City Council issued a negative declaration for the PUD back in
1982.
Lou Schneider moved, and Robert Bristol seconded the motion for approval of the PUD
site plan contingent upon the items agreed to during the discussion. All in favor.
01.84 BANK DRIVE-THRU FACILITY: 44 Congress Street
This is an application for special use permit for a bank drive-thru facility in the
Downtown Business District. This project is continued from the November 14, 2001
meeting. Anew submittal was made on December 6, 2001.
Saratoga Springs Planning Board — Agenda Notes for December 1 Z, 200] Meeting —Page 9 of 13
- In 1998 the applicant agreed to contribute $160 per lodging room for the NYS DOT
traffic mitigation fee. The fee for the additional 32 rooms would $5,120 (32 X
$160/room).
Letter of credit:
- Amount of cost estimate: Phase I = $5,947.63 (total cost of site work = $23,790) and
Phase 11= $37,890.00 (total cost of site work = $151,560)
- City Engineer's review for the final figure will be required.
- Expiration dates for Phase I and Phase H?
TECHNICAL ISSUES:
- Correct overprinting on all plans.
- Add bearing and distances to all boundary lines.
- Verify that all on -site hydrants are operational.
- Add building dimensions and height.
- Make . minor revisions to stormwater management report as per City Engineer's
comment.
- Add recommendations from the geotechnical report to the plans.
COMMENTS FROM TIC AUDIENCE:
DPS comments: "Emergency response to the proposed area is 8+ minutes and is excessive. I
recommend consideration of an additional fire station east of Rte. 87. I would request
fireflow calculations and a hydrant located within 500 feet. Also of concerns is
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accessibility and maneuverability of apparatus. Police Department: No comments.
Traffic Maintenance: No comments."
DPW comments: No comments received.
Saratoga County Planning Board referral: Pending
Application fee of $1,100 has been paid.
Traffic mitigation fee of $5,120 is due.
SERQ.determination issued by City Council in 1982.
Action on PUD on site plan.
8. 01.84 BANK DRIVE-THRU FACILITY: 44 Congress Street
Application for special use permit for a bank drive-thru facility in the .Downtown
Business District.
Project is continued from. the November 14, 2001 meeting.
New submittal was made on December 6, 2001.
POLICY ISSUES:
Proposed project will involve issuance of a special use permit for the drive-in facilities
and site plan review from the Planning Board. Architectural review from the DRC will
also be required
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EXHIBIT F
Redevelopment Sketch Plan 08/01 /21
Law Office of M. Elizabeth Coreno, Esq. P.C.
63 Putnam Street, Suite 202
Saratoga Springs, New York 12866
(518)421-1366
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