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Home My WebLink About20210757 Myrtle Street Site Plan Correspondance (2) �j T�E ARCHITECTURAL �'�'II ��LLAB(� RATI�E 5aratoga HoSpital - Morgan 5treet Medical Office Building 1'lanning Board #20210757 Pe: Brief 5ubmi55ion Narrative Dear DPC Board Member5, The following i5 a brief de5cription of our rea5on for 5ubmi55ion to the DPC a5 well a5 a brief narrative of the architectural de5ign a5 propo5ed to the planning board... Near the clo5e of our planning board meeting that took place on 5eptember 30t", 2021, Mr. Mark Torpey(1'lanning Board Chair), made a brief comment about the rooftop 5creen wall that ha5 been propo5ed a5 a parG of the building'S exterior de5ign. In hi5 comment, Mr.Torpey had recommended that the DPC have a chance to review the propo5ed roofGop 5creen wall de5ign to make 5ure we have con5en5u5 on maximizing the re5idential character of the 5creen wall de5ign. The written tran5cript of that parGicular meeting comment i5 provided in the attached page5, but wa5 a5 follow5... "Torpey: The roofGop unit—the de0ign you have with the parapet behind the peake—5eeme a little different from what I've 5een. I know thi5 project ha5 no—DKC ha5 no juri5diction on thi5 project, but I'm thinking if we're going to be looking at SEQKA down the road,I think it might be helpful to have in thi5 in5tance to have them juet take a look,perhape through an opinion from them on how we can make 0ure that deeign looke ae re5idential ae it po55ible can. It'S ju5t kind ofa unic�ue concept to 5ee a parapet wall behind it,and I knowyou're trying to hide the mechanical5, we're going to be concerned about noi5e and whether you're going to 5ee tho5e mechanical5, but it would be good if we're talking about it anyway to have 5ome input from DKC on the vi5ual a5pect a5 it a5 well for the neighbor5." A brief de5cription of the intent behind the propo5ed de5ign... The overall building wa5 de5igned with intent of providing a character that wa5 very re5idential in nature. 1'lea5e 5ee the 5ubmitted architectural elevation5 and per5pective rendering5. One of the key element5 of the de5ign wa5 to break down the building5 5cale through the u5e of the re5idential building form5/element5 found within the de5ign5 of the 5urrounding re5idential 5tructure5. Another key de5ign element wa5 to provide materiality that clo5ely re5embled tho5e 5ame 5tructure5. A few note5 about the roof level of the building... - The building ha5 a height of 40'to the top of the roof deck. - The roof level will hou5e (14)gable5, (6) roof top unit5,a 5tair enclo5ure, and a 5creen wall to help hide tho5e element5. - The initial de5ign of the building (circa 2015) made u5e of a man5ard to hide the roofGop element5 and to provide 5ound control. o Current code rec�uirement allow5 projection5 above the maximum building height to be only 25%of the building footprint 5c�uare footage below. With thi5 in mind,the 5creening 5y5tem needed to be rede5igned into 5omething with much 1e55"5c�uare footage". The de5ign of the 5creen wall that wa5 propo5ed during our planning board meeting wa5 that of a more verGical mechanical 5creen which greatly reduced our con5umed 5c�uare footage,while providing a materiality that wa5 con5i5tent with the re5t of the building de5ign. The u5e of a typical louvered, metal roof 5creen would not match the character of the re5idential 5tructure5 within the area and would provide little to no 5ound attenuation. The 5creen wall wa5 5tepped back from the building edge to reduce it5 vi5ibility to tho5e per5on5 at the grade level. The 5creen wall wa5 then 5et at a height of,and placed directly behind the ShorGer gable5 to give tho5e de5ign element5 5omething to"fini5h again5t", in5tead of appearing to"float"above the roofline. We felt that landing the5e gable5 �j T�E ARCHITECTURAL �'�'II ��LLAB� RATI�E gave them a much more appropriate vi5ual appearance. The de5ign give5 a continuity of materiality, 5ignificant vi5ual 5creening of the rooftop element5,and much greater 5ound control than a louvered 5creen 5y5tem. The attached 5ite 5ection 5how5 that a per5on at grade would need to be more than 243'from the building fa�ade to 5ee the very top edge of the roof top unit5 (RTUS)and that the home5 at the north end of the property(365' away)would only be able to 5ee the very top 18"of the PTUS. The land5cape de5ign call5 out for additional tree 5creening5 to be placed at the norGh end ea5t edge5 of the property,to help minimize thi5 already 5mall view. You will note that there i5 a 5light di5crepancy between the rendering5 and the elevation5 that were pre5ented to the 1'lanning 6oard. The rendering 5how5 he 5creen wall in more of a verGical 5iding appearance,while the elevation5 called for the 5creen wall to be panel5 and trim. We are currently updating the rendering5 to reflect the material5 that were denoted in the elevation5. TheSe revi5ed rendering5 will be pre5ented at the DRC meeting. In 5ummary,the intent of the 5creen wall de5ign wa5 to provide appropriate vi5ual and 5ound attenuation to the roof top element5,while providing a de5ign that wa5 con5i5tent with the elemental and material character of the 5urrounding re5idential 5tructure5. 5incerely, Jon 1'rimeau, 1'rincipal The Architectural Collaborative Plannin� Board — September 30, 2021 2:59:02/3:53:14 Torpey: The rooftop unit— the design you have with the parapet behind the peaks — seems a little different from what Pve seen. I know this project has no —DRC has no jurisdiction on this project, but Pm thinking if we're going to be looking at SEQRA down the road, I think it might be helpful to have in this instance to have them just take a look, perhaps through an opinion from them on how we can make sure that design looks as residential as it possible can. It's just kind of a unique concept to see a parapet wall behind it, and I know you're trying to hide the mechanicals, we're going to be concerned about noise and whether you're going to see those mechanicals, but it would be good if we're talking about it anyway to have some input from DRC on the visual aspect as it as well for the neighbors. I appreciate the energy modeling you're be doing with this and if there's a way to sort of non-demitionalize the results on a CO2 per square foot basis. What we're trying to do with some of the other buildings in town, like for example the one we talked about before at 269 Broadway, is to try to get a sense of how these various commercial buildings compare on that metric and to be helpful to have some common way to look at these projects - as we look - as more and more development happens. Any other questions or comments? Alice Smith: [summary] • They spoke for three hours, I hope I can do this in three minutes • Park Place Apartments — during blasting a woman on Seward Street had windows blasted out by one blast. They fixed her house and she signed a NDA. It is false that there is no risk and nothing is going to happen. • If they tell us what time, it will be nice, but it won't make a whole lot of difference. • Hospital has stated during their presentation here and other documents that they are working with the neighbors —this is not true. Birch Run is not representative of the rest of the neighbors. Those neighbors have been ignored of any discussion and have never been contacted regarding this project by Hospital, Planning Board, Zoning Board or City Council. • She did not receive (or her daughter-in-law) did not receive notification regarding the public hearing. • Some of the neighbors in Birch Run agreed to discuss the project. This was construed by the Hospital by consenting to or agreeing with the project. If anyone is acting as a spokesperson for the neighborhood, we expect the C:AUsers\thear\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\INetCacheAContent.0utlook\Z2YOFOPP\Transcription-Planning Board September 30.docx Planning Board to verify if neighbors have truly authorized someone to be a spokesperson. • The EAF shows the property has 19.3 acres. It shows the disturbed area will be 13.8. Segmentation. Rest of information is no use. They did this the first time around. • The traffic study is based on a reduced amount of traffic. They're talking about 500-something parking spaces. The initial phase will have that many, but you have to look at the whole area. The Hospital has confirmed they want to move 300 doctors. They will require 2,000 parking places for 300 offices. That is how you have to valuate the traffic study. It has to be done in one study, not over the course of 10 years (even if it takes 10 years). • I can't predict how long it will take, my guess is they will go full blast when it starts and it's not going to take 10 years. There's no way I can prove that and Pm not going to try to. • All impacts are minimized. If I was a developer trying to get an approval I would also try to minimize the impact on the area, so this is expected, but the PB is expected to have a higher standard. • During the last presentation Mr. Torpey asked Mr. Jones if the building was within the requirement for Medicare. MJJ said he was not sure and CMS isn't clear about it. Anyone investing in a multimillion dollar investment knows the answer to these questions. • The whole proposal is reckless and irresponsible. • If you took the work "Hospital" off this project would you still approve it? Braymer: • Some neighbors met with developers. HOA has not taken an official position either. • This is a massive project which they have already told us will take at least 10 years to complete. There are multiple phases of this project and I don't see those phases. These need to be considered in SEQRA review. • This is greenspace —taking from undeveloped conditioned to massive buildings. • We think there should be a positive declaration so that alternatives can be considered. C:AUsers\thear\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\INetCacheAContent.0utlook\Z2YOFOPP\Transcription-Planning Board September 30.docx %��`' � �� \ / ,r TheLAGR`P '. '' �,«,„—»- �' �,- .� , °o��.o��A,�� '�� .ua,.r ,,. ; ;'� � �� .�� ,FE � �o�,o �i : .. � ��3�� iV�"� "� � � � Saratoga Hosp�tal � I � �� \ �\ __ e„v�kia �� .. �� / : I � �'� _ � PARKING PHASING PLAN /,, ,,,y� u_^ �� ------_ � �� I .� ,��. / :,�, I ; .�-��". 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