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Online Form Submittal: Land Use Board Agenda Public Comment
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Comment
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Land Use Board Agenda Public Comment
SUBMIT COMMENTS REGARDING CITY PROJECTS
Thank you for submitting your comments. Your feedback will be forwarded
to the City's Planning Department and Land Use Board members. NOTE:
Comments submitted later than 12:00 noon on the day before the Land Use
Hoard meeting may not be reviewed prior to their meeting. All comments will
be added to the project file in the Planning Department.
Land Use Board Planning Board
Name A.J. Bozogian
Email Address bozogian@rnsn.com
Business Name Field not completed.
Address 12 Flying Dutchman Way
City Saratoga Springs
State NY
Zip Code 12866
Phone Number 6172336188
Project Name Regatta View Area B Phase III Site Plan
Project Number 16,018
Project Address Regatta View Lot 90
Comments Comments are attached
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Just wanted to highlight for the board some additional information from the documents
presented by Matt Jones to the Zoning Board back in 20I6. On page 2, we have the original
concept plan which had 9 condo clusters around a large paddock area. If you look at Zone B, it
has a lot of open space in the middle with condos clustered around it. This is consistent with
how the Interlaken neighborhood was actually built out, condo clusters with a large open
space/common area right where the A is on that map. Mr. Jones highlights the build out of
area BB and the additional approvals they got from the city. That is fine but they only built out
single family over there, no condos/town homes. In the December 6, 1989 minutes, three
significant dedsions happen. The wording in the PUD is changed from ' all recreation areas will
be open to all residents of the PUD" to "such decision should occur on a phase by phase basis
" This ended up closing Regatta View residents off from using the common areas in Interlaken
and it closed them off from using what would be in Regatta View. Also? the board agreed that
diminishing the open space or common areas was OK with the shift towards more single family
units. That would be fine if Mr. Belmonte was only building single family units but he is now
asking for town homes to be brought into the mix again. They weren't explicitly disapproved at
this point but it makes logical sense to me that the board would not have been OK with
eliminating common space if the plan was for town homes or condos with small yards. The
original concept plan of the neighborhood after the shift to single family on page 3 has a
gazebo, 2 tennis courts, and space for 100 docks available to residents. This was at the same
time the board agreed to diminished open/common space (1989-91 timeframe). There was still
significant open space/common area in the design just not the paddock area in the middle. In
1996, Mr. Belmonte comes into the picture with even more single family homes, cul de sac
design, and smaller lots on Flying Dutchman Way. At some point around this time the marina
area goes from being part of our neighborhood to being given to the Saratoga Rowing
Association. This is great for them and for the city but it significantly reduces the amount of
open/common space in the neighborhood. The open space in the neighborhood shifts over
time from the marina and paddock to the cul de sac and overlook/beach areas we have now.
The current proposal has less open space than the existing single family streets and no common
area added for the town homes. The proposed Dartmouth street lacks open space along it that
the only other through street, Regatta View Drive, has. I think Mr. Belmonte needs to add
common space into his design if he sticks with town homes or switch back to asking for single
family as he did in 1998-99. Interlaken and Waters Edge are the other majorjor town home
developments in the area and they both have significant common areas throughout. The new
owners would not be walking distance to something like East Side Rec, the Rec Center, or even
a small playground.
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City Planning Board Minutes 94
December 6,
-1969
the opening of the new Jamesway which the city would be
proud of and that it was an exciting plan. Mr. Toohey
indicated that 70 of the employees were either currently
working at another position or waiting for the reopening and
were looking forward to work there again as soon as
possible.
Mt, Toohey indicated that there would be fire . lane signs in
front and rear of building.
All hydrants would have easy access and within 4 ft. of
pavement stated Mr. Toohey.
Mr. Toohey stated that to meet the intent of the buffer
provision of the zoning ordinance they ate proposing a
fence and n landscaped" as opposed to a densely planted
buffer 25 ft . between residential zone and business
zone . Mr. Cummings indicated that personally, he would
like to see a landscape buffer with a solid fence. Mr.
Toohey indicated that a 6 ft . high wood stockade fence
would be erected.
The applicant agreed to further address all the issues and
return to the January meeting for a decision on their
request for site plan approval .
:-' ..-- 0 1 TERLAKEN - Ii - :I . E This is a discussion of
sketch élan for Interlaken PUD ' I-eglBlation as it relates
to Phase B. Richard Mullaney, attorney, appeared before . the
Boa5d.
Beth Scavone excused herself from the Board and stated that
she would not participate in the discussion because she is
employed by an attorney involved in this matter.
Geoff Bornemann stated that there were three remaining
issues regarding the draft revised legislation for the
Interlaken PUD. First, the draft legislation refers to the
project being serviced by private water system. The Board
agreed to ask the City Council to change it from a "private
water system" to a "community water system. "
The second issue was that the draft legislation states that
all recreation areas will be opened to all residents of the
PUD. The Board agreed to revise this to state that they
opened to all residents but such decision should occur on a
phase by phase basis .
to the zimount l'Ot .bpOry ''46aide: ofttionurpn
areas thpt ,;904.1.4,,,OpLaMiktn0110 with-,tite'itih:if,Cibstatd: ,1119;rk single - I
fariJy detached housing. 111:kp:,;,•.Titko- 7EtpAxd:. .aeed that, th1s was not
a problemand the original _languageirk,th0 draft legislation can
tsw,.
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Sarah Foulke stated she didn' t feel as though Mr. Miller needed
a letter of credit, due to this being a unique situation and a
single family house. The Board agreed.
Mr. Miller stated that his perculation test had been done. Mr .
Fowler stated that the test did not specify where and how deep
it was done. Mr. Miller stated that it was done 7 feet and 5
gallons per minute.
Robert Flanagan made a motion to issue a negative SEQR
determination. Sarah Foulke seconded the notion. Ayes all .
Wallace Allerdice made a motion for site plan approval
contingent upon items agreed to during the discussion and
waiving the letter of credit requirement . Robert Berry seconded
the motion. Ayes all.
90 .24 INTERLAKEN ZONE B - RECREATION AREA: (543 Union Avenue)
This is a public hearing and application for preliminary
and final POD site plan for a recreational area for the
residences of zone B.
Appearing before the Board was David Carr, landscape architect,
Richard Mullaney, attorney, and the applicant, Louis Farone.
Mr. Curley noted that the Department of Public Works, and
Public Safety have not submitted any comments .
Mr . Carr stated that he felt the proposed 2 inch water
line was adequate to service the 2 bathrooms and the 2
sinks in the gazebo. He did not feel it was necessary to
provide a hydrant and larger pine for fire protection .
Mr . Carr did agree to add the construction details on the
2 inch water line to the plans .
The Board stated that they recieved a letter from the owners
or the Bayshore trailer park which expressed concern with a
leaking pipe that supplied water from the Interlaken
Waterworks . Mr. Carr noted that the pipe lies on the west side
of Route 9P and does not cross the applicant ' s property.
Therefore, the applicant believes this issue was beyond the
applicant ' s control and not a relevant issue for this site
plan review. The Board agreed.
Mr. Carr stated that the docks that they would be putting
on the lake would be for the residents only, and that
both the docks and the boats would be stored off of the
site. There would be no boat launching or ramp at this
site .
Mr. Carr agreed to add a note clarifying that the drawings
make a reference to the approved PUD site plan for Zone B,
Phase 1 . He also agreed to add a note for the need of DOT
driveway permits .
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Mr. Carr stated that the gazebo would hold a maximum of forty
people and it would have electrical services . The parking lot
would have security lighting. He stated that they were not
going to have lighting on the docks, tennis courts, or the
path up to =he residential units because the facility is not
being designed for night use, Mr. Carr agreed to add the
parking demand for the gazebo to the plans.
Mr. Carr stated that the design calculations for the culvert in the
NYSDOT easement and the on site drainage would be submitted to the
city.
Mr. Carr agreed to make the handicapped parking space aisle B
feet wide and to add the required vertical signs .
Mr. Carr stated that they are planning to install 100
docks slips for the exclusive use of the Zone B tenants .
Mr . Carr stated that they would be floating docks and
that Ton Watts, from the NYS Department of Parks and
Recreation in Albany told him that they did not need to
obtain a permit. He also agreed to check with NYS DEC to
confirm that no other permits were needed for the docks.
Mr. Carr stated that all of the water for the property is
coming grom the Interlaken Water Company. He also stated that
no fire protection had been discussed due to all of the
structures being open.
Mr. Carr stated that they would put a fence around the
drainage pond and provide a construction detail of it on the
plans .
Mr. Carr stated that if the Board wanted handicapped .ramps
near the docks, that it would be no problem, and that they
would add the details to the plans .
Richard Mullaney stated that he did not feel as though an.
archeological investigation was needed to be done on Mr. Louis
Faro e ' s property. Mr. Mullaney stated that in the 1920 ' s ' and
1930' s the property was owned by the Albany Sand and Gravel
Company which had dug up the land, and that there were
railroad tracks going through the property. Mr. Malaney stated
that Albany Gravel had dug up 3 feet of the sand and replaced
it with gravel and that the land had been built up to support
the train tracks .
Geoff Bornenann asked the applicant to verify if any of the
site was within the designated floodplain and If it is a note
should be added that a floodplain permit will be needed. Mr.
Carr agreed to investigate this matter.
Mm Mullaney stated that Interlaken has already had someone out
there to check out the land, and no sensitive archeological
hot spots were found. He stated that in order to prove that
their are no artifacts it might cost them nearly $8, 000 . 00
dollars .
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